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Message 363 - Posted: 24 Jul 2020, 17:03:01 UTC - in response to Message 362.  
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Seems hit & miss. I did get work earlier today. See that half of that (unstarted) just got aborted by the project. "Cancelled by server". Hmmm, that'll go down well.
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Message 364 - Posted: 24 Jul 2020, 21:31:20 UTC

Hello!

Since I singed up, 29 Tasks were given to me: 23 are Completed and validated, 2 are pending validation.
But today the remaining 4 Tasks were cancelled by the server, is that intended? None of them exeeded their deadline.
Right now, my computer is waiting for new tasks, but not recieving any.
I'm not that into the BOINC project, maybe someone can tell me what's going on :)

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Message 365 - Posted: 25 Jul 2020, 0:04:25 UTC - in response to Message 363.  

Got some yesterday, cleared out some other work so tried to load up more today. Everything's running and there's tasks, so maybe a moth got in and gummed up the works...
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Message 366 - Posted: 25 Jul 2020, 3:19:48 UTC

I'm fairly new and also having the same issue, all the tasks I was given seem to have finished, some of the tasks in my profile say "Cancelled By Server" and my BOINC isn't getting any new tasks to complete.
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Message 371 - Posted: 25 Jul 2020, 10:37:23 UTC

The project admins communicate mostly via their Discord channel. I haven't taken a liking to that yet as it's very confusing for me to try to help one person while 17 others chitter between that in their own discussions. And everyone chimes in, some with completely stupid information.

I wish that admin would take 30 seconds per day to post something about the status of his project via these forums, but alas.
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Message 374 - Posted: 25 Jul 2020, 15:38:13 UTC - in response to Message 371.  

The project admins communicate mostly via their Discord channel. I haven't taken a liking to that yet as it's very confusing for me to try to help one person while 17 others chitter between that in their own discussions. And everyone chimes in, some with completely stupid information.

I wish that admin would take 30 seconds per day to post something about the status of his project via these forums, but alas.


Need to give you moderator powers there too. The bots can only do some much. Without someone to keep things on track, it turns into a general chat except for the locked channels.
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Message 375 - Posted: 25 Jul 2020, 16:03:48 UTC

As a new user that would really like to help the project out, I am very disappointed in the lack of communication from the admins to us. From my understanding of what's happening, we are not getting any new tasks because the current batch is finished? But I had to search through multiple discord channels, often full of unrelated discussions and dig up information from 2 days ago to have any idea of what is currently going on. I am wondering why the admins aren't making any public announcements on the state of the projects and address why many users aren't getting any tasks. I feel like, especially with so many new users currently registering, that the lack of communication is very deterring and might even lead some people to quit contributing to the project entirely.
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Message 376 - Posted: 25 Jul 2020, 17:02:45 UTC

I got ahold of Chip via Discord and he's migrated the project to a new more powerful server.

I just got a couple new WUs after the migration, so check to see if you got work. New apps are suppose to be releasing later today too.
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Message 377 - Posted: 25 Jul 2020, 17:31:51 UTC
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Ok, so on my side everything is working again and i'm resieving new tasks. But I don't know though if my issue got resolved manualy (if so: Thanks!) or if it just randomly solved itself
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Message 378 - Posted: 25 Jul 2020, 18:30:52 UTC - in response to Message 374.  

The project admins communicate mostly via their Discord channel. I haven't taken a liking to that yet as it's very confusing for me to try to help one person while 17 others chitter between that in their own discussions. And everyone chimes in, some with completely stupid information.

I wish that admin would take 30 seconds per day to post something about the status of his project via these forums, but alas.


Need to give you moderator powers there too. The bots can only do some much. Without someone to keep things on track, it turns into a general chat except for the locked channels.
I've still got my training wheels on when it comes to Discord, I don't want to be a moderator there. I'm looking into their channel maybe once a week, usually while waiting for a livestream to start on Youtube and as soon as that does I'm off their channel.
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Message 379 - Posted: 25 Jul 2020, 20:00:18 UTC - in response to Message 378.  


Need to give you moderator powers there too. The bots can only do some much. Without someone to keep things on track, it turns into a general chat except for the locked channels.
I've still got my training wheels on when it comes to Discord, I don't want to be a moderator there. I'm looking into their channel maybe once a week, usually while waiting for a livestream to start on Youtube and as soon as that does I'm off their channel.[/quote]

I don't like it myself. It has too many quirks. Also, if you don't have an actual account, it will create a new instance of your handle if you leave and come back some time later. I couldn't figure out how to claim my handle (name). It told me to login then told me I already existed...duh. So I had to quit out of it, actually login to Discord and rejoin the channel which created a new Yavanius (if cloning were only so easy).

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If you use the web browser to connect, you close the Tab and come back later, it will make you login again...

Incidentally, I only really noticed that misc chat on one of the channels and it wasn't that bad. I've seen much worse chat in general. The actual main development channels are locked to view only.
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Message 412 - Posted: 2 Aug 2020, 17:53:25 UTC

The best explanation I can provide you guys is this:

First of all, I apologize once again, this is all new to us and we've expanded very quickly.

The server was totally crippled by an influx of members and some BOINC services fail silently and could be a little more fault-tolerant; but quite frankly, most of them are ancient and could do with some modernization.

The feeder only has 100 slots in shared memory for the scheduler to retrieve new tasks from, if for whatever reason those tasks are unschedulable, they'll just hang around in shared memory and prevent new tasks being fed in. We can mitigate this by automatically removing items from schmem if they don't get scheduled within 'n' minutes, but this is a hack at best.
In order to increase this slot limit, we must make changes to BOINC source code and recompile these components. We've avoided this as we don't believe it should be necessary to run the project with any fundamental changes to the software to enable basic functionality.

We've attached some basic monitoring around the services logs, and are feeding them into a monitoring solution which alerts me in the event of anomalous patterns, so this should at least let us know when things start to go wrong.

Long term, we're working on re-architecting BOINC for Kubernetes which should allow significantly more resilience and fault tolerance to the entire stack.
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Message 414 - Posted: 2 Aug 2020, 19:47:41 UTC - in response to Message 412.  

If you're in the middle of reconfiguring, I'm getting these messages when attempting to get work:

8/2/2020 12:41:42 PM | | can't parse file_ref in result: unexpected XML tag or syntax
8/2/2020 12:41:42 PM | minecrafthome | [error] Can't parse task in scheduler reply: unexpected XML tag or syntax
8/2/2020 12:41:42 PM | minecrafthome | [error] No close tag in scheduler reply

Hope that provides some information you need :)
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