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Message 46 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 1:16:06 UTC - in response to Message 45.  

Anyone else running a 1080gtx and not getting any tasks? Event log says 0 tasks sent.


I'm running one under Linux and I'm NOT having any problems getting work.
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Message 47 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 1:50:55 UTC - in response to Message 46.  

Anyone else running a 1080gtx and not getting any tasks? Event log says 0 tasks sent.


I'm running one under Linux and I'm NOT having any problems getting work.


Hmmm, thanks. Maybe I'll pop over to my Ubuntu install after and try. I have been trying on windows 10.
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Message 48 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 4:51:54 UTC - in response to Message 47.  

Turns out the project uses OpenCL and I previously had an AMD card in the system.. removed the drivers and good to go.
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Message 49 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 5:41:15 UTC - in response to Message 5.  

every minute the task generates a request
Sending scheduler request: Requested by project.


what for?!! mess in the logs, DDoS attack on the server. is this a way of "suicide"? ;o)

and finally create the standard sections of the forum - each one has its own purpose.
no need to turn one news topic into a heap
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Message 50 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 9:19:07 UTC

Please remove the useless once a minute scheduler call from your settings.

If there is a real need for the client to call home make the interval at most once per hour.
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Message 51 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 9:31:26 UTC - in response to Message 31.  

Can stats export please be turned on?

I second that - if the project is live, it should be live in all aspects, so please, let's get the stats, as that's the fun part of it...
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Message 54 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 14:42:54 UTC

I _just_ upgraded a Linux desktop. In a break with tradition, i installed it with the distribution version of BOINC (instead of downloading it). For one thing, i don't have to set up getting it to start when the system boots. And the BOINC version is 7.9.3 - whereas Mindcraft wants me to install 7.4.22. Well, 7.9.3 doesn't have the Mindcraft URL, and i don't see it. Do i really have to downgrade BOINC to run Mindcraft?

Linux Mint 19.3 (based on Ubuntu 7.5.0), with nVidia GTX 950.

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Message 55 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 14:57:48 UTC - in response to Message 54.  
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BOINC version is 7.9.3


1. use direct URL https://minecraftathome.com/minecrafthome/ in BM

2. or use cmd in terminal
boinccmd   --project_attach https://minecraftathome.com/minecrafthome/ <key>

(key from https://minecraftathome.com/minecrafthome/weak_auth.php)
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Message 56 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 14:59:28 UTC - in response to Message 54.  

No, the older versions won't have it either. The project list is updated by the BOINC devs and automatically imported once every so many weeks. We haven't had an updated list yet.
In the mean time either use BOINC Manager->Add project->type https://minecraftathome.com/minecrafthome and hit Enter, then follow the normal instructions for adding the project (yes, existing user, your email and password for the account you post with).
Or via the a terminal window, with the BOINC client running type boinccmd --project_attach https://minecraftathome.com/minecrafthome account_key (the account key you can find in your account, it's a 32 character hexadecimal key)
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Message 57 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 16:05:23 UTC - in response to Message 31.  

Can stats export please be turned on?

Agreed. Please enable stats exports!

Also, I don't know what's different between my systems and those getting errors, but if it helps to have a reference point, my two computers with GTX 1060 and GTX 750ti aren't having any significant problems running tasks. Out of about 30 tasks so far, there's only one invalid/error task and I think that one was my fault (accidentally killed the process in Windows Task Manager).
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Message 61 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 17:05:08 UTC

Thanks to everyone for the messages here, I've neglected to read them for a few days. I'll be implementing essentially everything which has been asked here.
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Message 62 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 17:34:02 UTC - in response to Message 37.  

Until the app gets fixed, for those with multiple GPU systems, add this to your cc_config.xml. That way you can free up the rest of your GPUs to run other projects. You will need to quit/restart BOINC for the changes to take effect.:

<exclude_gpu>
   <url>project_URL</url>
   [<device_num>N</device_num>]
   [<type>NVIDIA|ATI|intel_gpu</type>]
   [<app>appname</app>]
</exclude_gpu>

It runs on GPU "0" of each type by default. So exclude GPUs 1+ for each type of additional GPUs you have in your machine. For example, Here are the entries I have on a Machine with three Nvidia GPUs:

Does that actually work?

It doesn't work here, both general device and project exclusions are ignored by the app.

All GPUs are detected.
6/27/2020 1:24:06 PM	CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (driver version 445.75, CUDA version 11.0, compute capability 7.5, 4096MB, 3018MB available, 15276 GFLOPS peak)	
6/27/2020 1:24:06 PM	CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (driver version 445.75, CUDA version 11.0, compute capability 7.5, 4096MB, 3018MB available, 15276 GFLOPS peak)	
6/27/2020 1:24:06 PM	OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (driver version 445.75, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 11264MB, 3018MB available, 15276 GFLOPS peak)	
6/27/2020 1:24:06 PM	OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (driver version 445.75, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 11264MB, 3018MB available, 15276 GFLOPS peak)	
6/27/2020 1:24:06 PM	OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon VII (driver version 2841.19 (PAL,HSAIL), device version OpenCL 2.0 AMD-APP (2841.19), 16192MB, 16192MB available, 13839 GFLOPS peak)	

The project exclusion is correctly read by BOINC:
minecrafthome	6/27/2020 1:24:06 PM	Config: excluded GPU.  Type: NVIDIA.  App: kaktwoos.  Device: 0	

But the app is still running on device 0.

I'm running BOINC 7.14.2. If it's working for other Nvidia users then the AMD card must be confusing things. I haven't had this problem on other projects though.
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Message 64 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 18:28:35 UTC - in response to Message 36.  

Too bad you can't use that VII, it would be interesting to see how it compares to a 5700 XT.

FWIW, now that I have only one task running on my 2080 Ti at a time, it takes 1960 seconds.

Admin: It would be better if you turned on the "number crunching" sub-forum, so that things like this could be discussed without clogging up the news sub-forum.


Done! Sub-forums are live.
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Message 65 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 20:01:22 UTC - in response to Message 62.  

Until the app gets fixed, for those with multiple GPU systems, add this to your cc_config.xml. That way you can free up the rest of your GPUs to run other projects. You will need to quit/restart BOINC for the changes to take effect.:

<exclude_gpu>
   <url>project_URL</url>
   [<device_num>N</device_num>]
   [<type>NVIDIA|ATI|intel_gpu</type>]
   [<app>appname</app>]
</exclude_gpu>

It runs on GPU "0" of each type by default. So exclude GPUs 1+ for each type of additional GPUs you have in your machine. For example, Here are the entries I have on a Machine with three Nvidia GPUs:

Does that actually work?

It doesn't work here, both general device and project exclusions are ignored by the app.

All GPUs are detected.
6/27/2020 1:24:06 PM	CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (driver version 445.75, CUDA version 11.0, compute capability 7.5, 4096MB, 3018MB available, 15276 GFLOPS peak)	
6/27/2020 1:24:06 PM	CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (driver version 445.75, CUDA version 11.0, compute capability 7.5, 4096MB, 3018MB available, 15276 GFLOPS peak)	
6/27/2020 1:24:06 PM	OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (driver version 445.75, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 11264MB, 3018MB available, 15276 GFLOPS peak)	
6/27/2020 1:24:06 PM	OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (driver version 445.75, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 11264MB, 3018MB available, 15276 GFLOPS peak)	
6/27/2020 1:24:06 PM	OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon VII (driver version 2841.19 (PAL,HSAIL), device version OpenCL 2.0 AMD-APP (2841.19), 16192MB, 16192MB available, 13839 GFLOPS peak)	

The project exclusion is correctly read by BOINC:
minecrafthome	6/27/2020 1:24:06 PM	Config: excluded GPU.  Type: NVIDIA.  App: kaktwoos.  Device: 0	

But the app is still running on device 0.

I'm running BOINC 7.14.2. If it's working for other Nvidia users then the AMD card must be confusing things. I haven't had this problem on other projects though.


It is working for me.
In your case, it looks like you have two different GPU 0, one ATI and one Nvidia. In that case, you should be able to exclude one, and run a task only on the other, by using the correct "type" argument. You will also need to have an entry to exclude your GPU 1. Something line this, assuming you want to exclude the Radeon:

 <cc_config> 		
	<options> 
                <exclude_gpu>
                        <url>https://minecraftathome.com/minecrafthome/</url>
                        <type>NVIDIA</type>
                        <device_num>1</device_num>
                        <app>kaktwoos</app>
                </exclude_gpu>
                <exclude_gpu>
                        <url>https://minecraftathome.com/minecrafthome/</url>
                        <type>ATI</type>
                        <device_num>0</device_num>
                        <app>kaktwoos</app>
                </exclude_gpu>
	</options> 
</cc_config> 


Of course, the most important part: You must quit and restart BOINC after making the changed to the cc_config.xml. The actual BOINC client, not just the BOINC manager.

If it's still not working, can you post your cc_config.xml for us to look at?
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Message 68 - Posted: 28 Jun 2020, 0:29:23 UTC - in response to Message 57.  

Can stats export please be turned on?

Agreed. Please enable stats exports!

Also, I don't know what's different between my systems and those getting errors, but if it helps to have a reference point, my two computers with GTX 1060 and GTX 750ti aren't having any significant problems running tasks. Out of about 30 tasks so far, there's only one invalid/error task and I think that one was my fault (accidentally killed the process in Windows Task Manager).


Stats exports are enabled now
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Message 69 - Posted: 28 Jun 2020, 0:36:32 UTC - in response to Message 50.  

Please remove the useless once a minute scheduler call from your settings.

If there is a real need for the client to call home make the interval at most once per hour.


Removed, this was dangling from testing, apologies
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Message 95 - Posted: 28 Jun 2020, 18:16:42 UTC - in response to Message 65.  

It is working for me
...snip...
If it's still not working, can you post your cc_config.xml for us to look at?

It didn't work, most likely to do with the AMD card. I run separate clients for each GPU plus another for the CPU because BOINC's scheduling annoys me. Normally I use the device exclusions.
	<ignore_ati_dev>0</ignore_ati_dev>
	<ignore_nvidia_dev>0</ignore_nvidia_dev>

This didn't work so it makes sense the project exclusion doesn't work either. (BTW a problem with the AMD project exclusion is that AMD work gets downloaded even though it won't run). I think it's an AMD issue because removing all exclusions gets AMD work, but it's not actually running on the GPU. I have a similar problem with this system running [email protected] work.

I tried this with the project exclusion, device exclusion and both together. The result was always the same. Most aren't running Nvidia and AMD in the same system so I'll just wait and hope the app gets fixed. Thanks for your help.
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Message 96 - Posted: 28 Jun 2020, 18:41:32 UTC - in response to Message 95.  

(BTW a problem with the AMD project exclusion is that AMD work gets downloaded even though it won't run).

So why not go to the Project preferences page then and uncheck the Use AMD GPU option? Then it won't use the AMD GPU and it won't download work for it.
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Message 97 - Posted: 28 Jun 2020, 20:04:06 UTC - in response to Message 57.  

Can stats export please be turned on?

Agreed. Please enable stats exports!

Also, I don't know what's different between my systems and those getting errors, but if it helps to have a reference point, my two computers with GTX 1060 and GTX 750ti aren't having any significant problems running tasks. Out of about 30 tasks so far, there's only one invalid/error task and I think that one was my fault (accidentally killed the process in Windows Task Manager).

Already showing up in Free-DC stats. That was quick, thanks! :)
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Message 99 - Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 3:27:19 UTC - in response to Message 96.  

(BTW a problem with the AMD project exclusion is that AMD work gets downloaded even though it won't run).

So why not go to the Project preferences page then and uncheck the Use AMD GPU option? Then it won't use the AMD GPU and it won't download work for it.

That would have been the smart move. I didn't think about it, and also it's not a problem using the device exclusion like I normally use. Curiously, BOINC gives an error message about a missing coproc using the project app exclusion, but still downloads work for it. Work for an ignored GPU isn't downloaded even if it's selected in project preferences. At least it allowed me to determine my AMD card isn't working here.
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